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rice might be intersvennist than john kerry who's the other potential nominee and maybe take susan rice instead of john kerry. >> when you think of the dynamics on capitol hill and the relationship when from capitol hill to the white house, i mean, what impact do you think a bruising battle over susan rice would be and the other things they're running on? >> exactly. i mean, you know, you could have a three-ring circus or cut down one of the rings and push it to the side and you have got the fiscal cliff going on. you've got issues that have to do with egypt, foreign aid to egypt. you have gaza. why do you want to have another ring there? and start dealing with this confirmation battle which is as wolf pointed out earlier the optics of a confirmation battle with susan rice. african-american woman. two groups that the republican party did not do very well with i might add in the last election. >> acknowledging they need to do better. >> i don't mean to impugn john mccain or lindsey graham for criticizing her. i think they have their reasons and nothing to do with anything other than beng
. after the benghazi debacle i heard more it would be john kerry because a lot of people rightly recognized that sending susan rice up there would turn it into a benghazi circus where everyone will want to be talking about benghazi. we had the press conference where the president, he's clearly very dug in on this. when i say it's arrogant, it's clear that he has just either complete contempt for the media, or just believes that he can just do whatever he wants because the idea that he would send her up there, put her under oath and have her be forced to answer these questions, and i think mccain is right, it's not about susan rice it's about the president. but he's going to put her in the line of fire. i think it just shows arrogance. it's him basically saying, look we clearly misled people, nobody seems to care so i'm going to just send her up there. martha: do you believe he intends to do that, that nothing has changed or he's been emboldened in recent weeks? >> i really read that press conference to mean he's going to nominate her. i've asked around, i don't think anybody know
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